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[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] FW: IPS Issues documentJulian, I took the liberty of forwarding your comments to the reflector. To get the discussion going... Paul von Stamwitz -----Original Message----- From: julian_satran@il.ibm.com [mailto:julian_satran@il.ibm.com] Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 10:43 AM To: Dave_Lee@3com.com Cc: Bradley, Mark; VonStamwitz, Paul; Wilson, Andrew; 'Costa Sapuntzakis'; bassoon@ece.cmu.edu; alan@orca.com; harwood_jack@emc.com Subject: RE: IPS Issues document Hi, Good job. I had only an hour to glance over it so I might come later with some more but here are some observations: Performance - has two aspects - related but not entirely equivalent - latency and bandwidth. It is obvious that bandwidth is not a differentiating factor for any type of interconnect as they use the same physical infrastructure in a similar fashion. Latency on the other hand is a more difficult factor as it relates to hardware, software and protocol. CPU utilization by itself is arguably not a limiting factor - as it can be solved by simply adding more CPUs or waiting until the CPUs get faster. All the elements you mention under CPU utilization refer mostly to the memory subsystem utilization - and there are no known ways to improve on that as the memory does not get faster as fast as the CPUs do (no Moore law for DRAMs!). Protocol stack processing reduction is the mainly improving your "placement" techniques and reducing copy operations. Storage subsystems fare better (and so does FCP) since the do scatter-gather DMA (and DMA is times faster than copy due to an architectural "feature" of DRAMs that use one address setup for several memory operations. This is the reason why we think that giving the protocols a chance to do well DMA is so important Adoption of the solution by the device vendors is important but not critical. Adoption of a "last half-meter" protocol - like the serial-ATA pushed by Intel, with all its drawbacks could offer a cheap alternative for fiercely competitive environments like desktops with SCSI as a more robust and functional cousin. For clusters and RAIDs both can be considered and with IP getting adopted by pervasive computing may get IP networks to the point at which the price differential will not exist anymore You do not mention the SBP although, I recall it as the first serial SCSI standardized On the performance section I think that solution scalability for the low-end to the high-end is essential as it is the only way to gain "mass" and survive the continuous shift in performance Management should include both storage and interconnect. Any solution should be able to use for interconnect management whatever is good for network management with only slight concern about the device specifics. A factor that I have difficulty expressing is - skills and tools availability. By this I mean planers, administrators and (why not!) even salesman and their tools. Any solution that we leverage an existing skill (and tools) base will have a distinct advantage Regards, Julo Julian Satran - IBM Research at Haifa
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