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[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Design TeamsJulian, > Can we get a room for some face-to-face design > team meetings in Pittsburgh. The short answer is "no", if for no other reason than there is no official IETF space available. The long answer is that the core iSCSI proposal has more or less reached the point where a small design team ceases to be an effective means of making progress. A focused design team is effective in producing an initial version of something, and the iSCSI design team has done well has done well in that regard. Once the initial version is done, wider review and comment is required to move from design team consensus to working group (rough) consensus. Working through the issues on the mailing list where all of the technical discussion is visible tends to be more effective than queuing up issues for design team meetings and interpreting the minutes to try to figure out what was considered by the design team. Design teams may still be appropriate for focused areas where it's necessary to make rapid progress on an initial version -- security comes to mind as a possible example. Also, the WG may need interim meetings between IETF meetings - if so, these will be announced well in advance and open to all. Let me also make it clear that this note should not discourage interested people from meeting in whatever informal circumstances are convenient, as long as everyone keeps in mind that the list should be the primary forum for technical discussions and decision-making rather than merely being used to review decisions made offline. I've been personally involved in an IETF WG in which design teams were used effectively (disbanded after production of the initial version) and one in which they were used ineffectively (persisted long after the initial version). IMHO, it's more than coincidence that the latter WG has encountered greater difficulty and consumed much more time than expected in making progress towards its goals. I'd prefer not to identify the WGs in order to avoid an off-topic discussion. I believe the AD(s) will have more to say on this subject in Pittsburgh. --David --------------------------------------------------- David L. Black, Senior Technologist EMC Corporation, 42 South St., Hopkinton, MA 01748 +1 (508) 435-1000 x75140, FAX: +1 (508) 497-6909 black_david@emc.com Cellular: +1 (978) 394-7754 ---------------------------------------------------
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