RE: Re: iSCSI: SCTP Switch and Router support

[somesh_gupta@hp.com]

I agree. Look at switches by a lot of vendors (like Alteon,
Foundry etc.). In general, the trend towards being aware of
TCP connection flows (keeping actual connection states) is
increasing with some switches capable of maintaining state
information for upto a million connections.

In addition to things mentioned by John, it is also going to
be used (or already being used) for traffic classification
(VLAN and priority). It is an important component of traffic
engineering.

(on a comment by Doug, most (all??) TCP implementations today
avoid fragmentation also (by using path MTU discovery) since
fragmentation is so expensive for routers or receivers.

Somesh

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hufferd@us.ibm.com [mailto:hufferd@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 9:19 AM
> To: Black_David@emc.com
> Cc: ips@ece.cmu.edu
> Subject: FW: Re: iSCSI: SCTP Switch and Router support
> 
> 
> David,
> A lot of what you say is true, however, the word "Most" is 
> the key.  There
> are a number of Switches, NATs, Proxies, and Load Balancers 
> that actually
> care about TCP/IP.  I do not believe they will handle the SCTP in a
> transparent manor.
> 
> .
> .
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> John L. Hufferd
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> Black_David@emc.com on 08/24/2000 08:54:46 AM
> 
> To:   John Hufferd/San Jose/IBM@IBMUS
> cc:   ips@ece.cmu.edu
> Subject:  iSCSI: SCTP Switch and Router support
> 
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> > 3. We will need to get the Switch and Router folks to also 
> support SCTP
> and
> > to do it in Hardware so that the speed and throughput can 
> be maintained.
> I
> > do not see that happening, at least not right away, when we 
> need to get
> > volumes moving in order to validate the IP storage SAN concept.
> 
> I don't understand this.  Most switches and routers
> have no knowledge of whether TCP, UDP, or even IPsec
> encapsulated (and hence opaque) traffic is flowing
> through them.  What's special about SCTP -- is this
> about layer 4 and higher switches/routers?
> 
> --David
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