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    Re: FCIP iFCP encapsulation proposal



    > There is a remote possibility that a false compare could occur
    > from other data in the stream so it is necessary to continue to
    > check the "tentative" FCIP/iFCP payload and CRC also before
    > assuming a correct synchronization. If both CRC checks are good,
    > this certification should be at least as good as the data
    > integrity provided by the CRCs in a synchronized stream.
    
    Nonsense.
    
    The original FCIP proposal that the receiver scan for an EOF/HDR/SOF
    sandwich to recover synchronization has the same problem.  This
    technique is fundamentally bogus.
    
    Any time you're scanning user-controllable data (as in from the
    completely uncontrolled, end application), you MUST assume absolute
    worst case (to fool the sync algorithm) data.  In the worst case, the
    probability of faking out your resynchronization heuristic is much
    (!!!) greater than the probability of an integrity CRC giving you a
    false positive acceptance check.
    
    In other words, the user can pack the data stream with `cooked' data
    patterns that are just waiting for a dropped frame and an attempt to
    resynchronize.  If you assume that the shortest pattern required to
    fool the resynchronization algorithm is n words (no longer than the
    minimum well-formed PDU size), and TCP segmentation is effectively
    random (*), the chance of your resynch algorithm getting spoofed
    (resulting in the user getting some control of trusted `machinery') is
    simply 1 in n.
    
    You can fix this problem by using a shared `secret' (from the client)
    between the two endpoints.  For example, if you put a 64-bit random
    number that both endpoints know in the end/begin sandwich, THEN you
    can talk about vanishingly small probabilities of the sandwich
    discovery going wrong.
    
    Personally, I think this running sync rediscovery is all makework
    because it's still a far distant second (or third, if you like
    periodic markers) to ensuring that each segment is sufficiently
    self-describing (AKA framing).  A framing solves several other
    problems, such as the digest failure problem currently being discussed
    by Julian & Somesh.
    
    Steph
    
    * It isn't but, AGAIN, you must make WORST CASE assumptions, because,
    with properly periodic or aperiodic patterns, the user can actually
    encourage the segmentation algorithm to work in her favor.
    


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