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[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: iSCSI: LUN field in PDUsRod, The LUN field inside the CDB is not the "real" LUN - it is there only for compatibility with SCSI-1/2. Julo "Rod Harrison" <rod.harrison@windriver.com> on 25/03/2001 22:06:07 Please respond to "Rod Harrison" <rod.harrison@windriver.com> To: ips@ece.cmu.edu cc: Subject: iSCSI: LUN field in PDUs Carrying the LUN in some of the iSCSI messages can be a little awkward for the initiator since it has to find the LUN. This means the initiator has to understand the CDB and know whether we are in the SCSI 1/2 3 bit LUN or a more modern world. I understand the argument that some targets might want to steer based on the LUN but I also think Matt Wakeley has a valid point when he says the target should be able to steer based on the target task tag alone. I have a proposal that might get us the best of both worlds. I believe in practice most targets will want to use solicited data mode, perhaps with a fairly small amount of immediate data [reasoning at the end of this message to avoid cluttering things]. This being so, I think we could get away with leaving all the messages as they are except the SCSI command PDU. Let's take the LUN field out of there (make it reserved), since the LUN is in the CDB anyway. This would avoid the initiator having to grub around inside a protocol layer's data it might not want to understand. If the target wants to be a 'pure tunnel' and not crack open the CDB it can do so, and if the target wants to steer on the LUN it still has that information at the cost of understanding the CDB. This doesn't seem to bad from the target point of view. If the target wants to steer on the LUN we can have it include the LUN in the R2T, and perhaps a flag bit to say this has happened. The initiator should always return the LUN in subsequent messages if the target has included it in the R2T. The overall effect of this change would be relatively minor. Command PDU has a simple change, data PDUs remain the same. I'm not sure why we are carrying LUN in the NOPs since they are iSCSI protocol management messages and are not really related to any underlying SCSI device. I assume the LUN in NOP-OUT is there to carry whatever the target might set in the LUN field of NOP-IN. If this is so then we need no changes to NOPs. My main sticking point with this is the task management PDU. The initiator might want to send a task management PDU before the target has responded with an R2T. Indeed, there might never be an R2T if the initial burst satisfies the entire data transfer. Do we really need the LUN in task management PDUs? No matter where the target thinks it should steer the PDU based on the LUN it still has to go find the task associated with the initiator task tag. - Rod Harrison [Target use of R2T reasoning] The reason I believe most targets will prefer solicited data is simply one of buffer management. If the target is controlling many SCSI devices, and thus running many iSCSI sessions to many initiators I think the only viable way to control buffer usage is via R2T. Since the target can never know how many sessions it might have to manage, and how many commands will be outstanding in each session it would have to be very conservative in negotiations for the amount of unsolicited data. If some sessions are much more active than others, this could lead to the active sessions being throttled because of negotiated limits whilst only a small amount of buffers are being used on the target overall. The tighter feedback loop afforded by R2T would seem to be the way to go.
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