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[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: Calling for Tape & Backup Application ExpertsSomesh, > If you are out there on the list and can help with creating a model > of the backup app, that will help resolve some of the issues. I expect I'm considered to be a biased observer, but the only backup app that I've ever used that worked decently is amanda. It's relatively configurable, but the typical configuration (the only one I've seen used, at several, independent sites) is: 1) backup (e.g. dump) streams from client to holding disk on backup server 2) server streams data from holding disk to tape (prevents underruns) 3) if tape error occurs, notify operator and retain backup data on the holding disk if backup disk is full, stop backing up clients to holding disk It also does all sorts of complicated stuff to chose among backup levels, but that's not really germane here, except that it will allow you to back up a massive storage foot print with a relatively small number of tape drives and relatively small holding disk. The upshot of this is that amanda uses programs like tar, dump and cpio as primitives in which errors are expected to occur occasionally, and recovery is required. It is a mistake to rely solely upon simple backup programs that have no operator intervention loop in them. In my experience (I was an operator at one such site), a very common reason why the backups failed was because high-density cartridge tape drives require cleaning after a relatively small number of hours, and (at least) Exabyte drives would not permit a tape to be used when a cleaning was due. It did give some advanced warning, like flashing lights, but you know how easy it is to miss a flashing LED in a machine room (they flash when the tape is operating too!), and with the small interval between cleanings (when the tape drive is running near 100% duty cycle), it seemed like it was ALWAYS in need of cleaning. I haven't used a Windows backup apps, but I can't help thinking the Amanda approach is not novel for a serious backup app (as opposed to NT backup or other `consumer grade' apps). While we're gathering requirements, backup is only one of the two major applications of tape. The other is streaming data logging, also known as the `telemetry problem'. In this case, data is running to the tape almost continuously, and an operation failure may not be a matter of trying again tomorrow. Then again, it might. There's usually a large direct access device (e.g. RAID box) used as a buffer to the tape, but I'm not sure if it's sized to allow for operator recovery or what. I don't see how any other solution would be possible. Steph
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