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[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Framing FormatsNOTE: iSCSI tag removed because there's FCIP-related material in this message. > We don't want this thread to be started again in this forum. > For anything related to framing go to the TSWG or to the RDMA mailing list. I think Julian may have jumped for that conclusion a little too quickly. Certainly, there are topics that belong on those mailing lists: - TCP-aware framing mechanisms are in the domain of TSVWG. Use of URG and PSH for framing is not going to happen. - RDMA mechanism discussions belong on the RDMA list - this is not an official IETF list. Beyond these, there are a couple of topics that are fair game for the IPS list: - TCP-unaware framing mechanisms intended for specification as part of an IPS protocol; this includes markers, as well as the synchronization recovery mechanism proposed for FCIP. - Discussion of appropriate requirements (e.g., should markers be specified as "MUST implement" with some additional rules about which end of a connection controls their usage on what traffic?). The requirements issue is definitely an open issue at this point in time. As for alternatives to markers, a fairly high level of rigor will be expected of approaches that scan data looking for some distinctive pattern - it basically needs to be the case that this sort of scan and detect algorithm cannot get confused by any pattern appearing in a data payload (read or write data for iSCSI). A motivating example to think about is where trace data that includes the distinctive pattern (e.g., from a sniffer) is being written to or read from a file. Byte and word stuffing mechanisms to ensure that the pattern the algorithm is looking for can't appear in data are one way to accomplish this, but there are others. While I'm on this topic, let me note that the algorithm in Annex A of the -03 FCIP draft does not meet this "cannot get confused" criterion. For FCIP, it is possible to meet this criterion without resorting to stuffing techniques - the basic idea is to scan enough incoming data so that there have to be valid headers in there, note every possible header found, and their relationships based on length fields. If the resulting situation is ambiguous/confusing, restart and/or abandon the attempt to re-establish synchronization. A considerably improved algorithm should appear in the -04 version of the FCIP draft based on some offline discussion with some of the draft authors. Thanks, --David --------------------------------------------------- David L. Black, Senior Technologist EMC Corporation, 42 South St., Hopkinton, MA 01748 +1 (508) 435-1000 x75140 FAX: +1 (508) 497-8500 black_david@emc.com Mobile: +1 (978) 394-7754 ---------------------------------------------------
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