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    Re: Addition of CmdSN in Data-out PDU



    Andy, Paul & All,
    
    The proposed model is broken if an initiator issues a few immediate scsi
    commands. (such cmds will share the same cmdsn, that of the last issued
    non-immediate cmdsn).
    
    The only unique identifier is the initiator task tag in the case of
    un-solicited I/O.
    
    Thanks,
    Santosh
    
    
    Paul Koning wrote:
    > 
    > Excerpt of message (sent 9 October 2001) by andy currid:
    > >
    > > Julian, all
    > >
    > > I second Matthew's request to have CmdSN present in DataOut PDUs.
    > > ...
    > > When receiving unsolicited DataOut PDUs, a target must currently use
    > > the ITT to determine the command with which the DataOut is associated.
    > > In the absence of hardware assist such as a CAM, a target implementation
    > > must search a list of non-final commands currently queued within the
    > > session to match the ITT. When many such commands are queued (which ought
    > > to be the case for performant implementations), that search will relatively
    > > inefficient, no matter how the search is optimized (binary search, hash
    > > table, etc.).
    > 
    > I'll add my voice to the set.  Andy's arguments make perfect sense.
    > Lookups on unstructured IDs are a pain.  Hashing can be fast, but hash
    > table changes typically aren't.  The nasty case is a lookup on a set
    > of unstructured IDs that changes very rapidly, which is exactly the
    > case we have here.
    > 
    > > Placing CmdSn in DataOut will allow a target to instantly access the
    > > queued command with which an unsolicited DataOut is associated, without
    > > performing a search. Mapping from a CmdSN into a queue location within
    > > the target is almost certainly a constant time operation.
    > 
    > Exactly.
    > 
    > > I don't see any performance issues with making this change. I don't
    > > think it's a big imposition on an initiator to include the associated
    > > CmdSN in a DataOut PDU. Do any initiator implementors feel this would
    > > be a problem?
    > >
    > > On the target end, I don't think consistency checking is an issue. In a
    > > solicited data out carrying CmdSN, targets would be free to ignore CmdSN
    > > and simply use TTT as they do today. There's no obligation to verify
    > > CmdSN is consistent with the DataOut's associated command, though such
    > > a check is likely to be cheap.
    > 
    > Consistency checking could be left out entirely if we wish.  That
    > would be my inclination.  Or it could be made optional -- or even, if
    > people insist, mandatory.  It's very cheap if that's done.  The
    > response to an inconsistency should be harsh (terminate the session,
    > for example) because it will only happen if the sender is defective.
    > 
    >      paul
    
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