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[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: Comments on ips security draft>- Section 2.3, page 10. "Conformant iSCSI security implementations >MUST support ESP in transport mode. " > I assume it should be tunnel mode.... There is now a discussion going on on the SAAG mailing list about whether it should be tunnel mode or transport mode. We'll talk more about this at IETF 52. One significant issue with tunnel mode for iSCSI doesn't arise in iFCP or FCIP, since with iSCSI initiators, addresses may be dynamically assigned, whereas with iFCP and FCIP, the expectation seems to be that the IP addresses will be static. Static addressing for tunnel mode is a lot simpler. For one thing, since the addresses and configuration are static, you don't need to configure tunnel addresses and parameters on the fly. Another implication is that you can use main mode with shared secrets, and have a unique shared secret for each endpoint. For iSCSI with dynamically assigned addresses, life becomes more complicated. The implication is that if an iSCSI initiator with a dynamically assigned address were to use tunnel mode, the tunnel mode gateway at the other end would need to assign an IP address and otherwise configure the tunnel. The IPSRA WG has recently put out a Proposed Standard that addresses this issue, draft-ietf-ipsec-dhcp-13.txt. So if you want to do tunnel mode within iSCSI and have it interoperate with the IETF Proposed Standard for Tunnel mode configuration, you'll need to sign up for this too. The problem is that the goal was to be able to reuse existing IPsec gateways -- if you have to significantly update the gateway, then this cancels one of the advantages of doing tunnel mode. In the absence of referencing the IPSRA WG standard for tunnel mode configuration, there would not be enough detail to ensure interoperability between iSCSI security implementations. It would be highly likely that some vendors would ship; their existing gateways which typically do mode config (a proprietary protocol that is not on standards track and may never even be published as an RFC) while others would do DHCP config, and we would not have interoperability. Given that configuration is an essential part of IPsec tunnel mode setup for dynamically addressed hosts, it is probably required that we reference the proposed configuration method normatively. This would imply that if we go with anything other than the IETF Proposed Standard, any documents, such as iSCSI, which referenced these proprietary methods could not become IETF standards. So if I believe this means that if we go with tunnel mode, we probably need a normative reference to draft-ietf-ipsec-dhcp-13.txt as well. As the saying goes "think carefully about what you ask for -- you might get it." > >- Section 3.3, page 17. The well-known target port for iSCSI may > be updated to 3260. This will be reflected in draft -07. A version of this in progress is available at http://www.drizzle.com/~aboba/RDMA/draft-ietf-ips-security-07.txt. > >- Section 3.4, page 18. > "[d] a specific connection be closed at the Target's request. LP > Command [d] is distinct from [b] in that it indicates that the > connection is being closed in response to a request from the Target > for it to be closed. Due to asymmetries in the iSCSI protocol, > Targets cannot close a connection on their own initiative." > > It needs to be reworded, since this is incorrect. [d] is the same as > [b]. Do you have specific language you'd like to suggest? > >- I may be missing something, but the table listing IKE implementation > sizes on page 28 seems completely out-of-context in the middle of > a rekeying frequency discussion. Moved the table to be closer to the relevant text. > >Thanks. >-- >Mallikarjun > > >Mallikarjun Chadalapaka >Networked Storage Architecture >Network Storage Solutions Organization >MS 5668 Hewlett-Packard, Roseville. >cbm@rose.hp.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
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