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    iSCSI: Markers



    OK, Folks, I have now talked to Steph, who authored  TUF, which is
    currently on the road to Experimental Status,  He has authored another
    version of TUF also, which uses a form of COWS.  So that means that we have
    two different versions of TUF as well as 2 versions of COWS (which are
    independent of Framing), and then there is FIM.  So let me list them and be
    sure we name them so that we are not in the middle of more confusion.
    
    1. Fixed Interval Markers (FIM) Currently In the iSCSI Draft
    2. Constant Overhead Word Stuffing (COWS) as drafted by Julian and sent in
    his note of 12/23/2001 Subject "iSCSI - Synch an Steering Appendix -
    Markers & COWS"
    3. TCP Upper-layer-protocol Framing (TUF) as drafted by Stephen Bailey in
    http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-tsvwg-tcp-ulp-frame-01.txt
    4. COWS Drafted By Stephen Bailey which can be used in both in stream and
    with Framing in
    http://www.cs.uchicago.edu/~steph/draft-bailey-tsvwg-cows-00.txt
    
    Now lets call Julian's proposal COWS with 2 way pointers (COWS2WP)
    Now lets call Steph's COWS with 1 way pointers (COWS1WP)
    
    When the type of COWS does not matter we can just call them COWS.
    
    Both COWS can be used in Framing.  But to keep this discussion somewhat
    simpler lets call the Framing without any COWS as "Bare Framing", and Both
    of the other as "COWS Framing".  Only when we need to talk about which type
    of COWS should we say "COWS2WP Framing" or "COWS1WP Framing".  But for most
    conversation it should be just "COWS Framing".
    
    So we have FIM, COWS1WP, COWS2WP, Bare Framing, & COWS Framing (made up of
    COWS1WP Framing and COWS2WP Framing).
    
    Now we also need to understand that one of the main reasons expressed to
    make Framing go experimental, instead of Standards Track was that folks
    were worried that Bare Framing was based on probability, and that there was
    a very remote possibility that something could be done incorrectly.
    
    As a result of that Steph was considering, as part of the experimental
    work, seeing what the impact of his previous COWS Draft would be on the
    experimental work that was going to be done.  He had no intention of
    bringing it up now, since he felt work/thought was still needed.
    
    As you know COWS came up anyhow (and in a different form).
    
    So what we have are statements from folks like me that had read Julian's
    Draft and the ietf-tsvwg version of Framing (Bare Framing), which did not
    see in those drafts the overlap.  Clearly there is an overlap in the minds
    of Julian for COWS2WP and Steph for COWS1WP and how they might impact
    Framing.
    
    NET of Bare Framing vs COWS Framing:
    Bare Framing is based on probability and does not have to inspect each Word
    (SW or HW) COW requires Touching each Word,
    COWS Framing is guaranteed to always be correct.
    
    So the choices are:
    1. FIM now, and Bare Framing later
    2. FIM now, and COWS Framing later
    3. COWS now, and Bare Framing later
    4. COWS now, and COWS Framing Later
    5. Nothing now, and some kind of Framing Later
    
    If we chose to do any of the "COWS now" options we would need to hold the
    debate on which form, but we should assume that which ever COWS we chose
    now is the COWS for later.
    
    Value Statements
    1. FIM and Bare Framing: Means we never have the overhead of touching every
    word
    2. FIM and COWS Framing: Means that touching is postponed until Framing,
    and perhaps Faster Desktops/Laptops or support even support in normal NICs.
    3.  COWS now and Bare Framing later: Has issues of toughing everything now,
    and then not useful later
    4. COWS now and COWS Framing Later: Means always touch, but current
    approach is extensible into Framing
    5.Nothing now, and some kind of Framing later: Means No current help, and
    no guarantee of help in the future, but some reasonable probability that
    some form of Framing will happen.
    
    So it is 1-5 upon which  we should be taking a position.
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    John L. Hufferd
    Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM)
    IBM/SSG San Jose Ca
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