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[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] iSCSI: SRP statusIt's been an "interesting" week on this topic. This is an attempt to (coherently) summarize the current situation in which the WG finds itself and what is being done. This message is a mixture of technical and procedural material - technical queries and follow-ups should be sent to the list, but I would ask that procedural queries and follow-ups be sent directly to me to avoid procedural discussions on the list. I promise to post the (inevitable) clarifications. -- Disclaimer - I am NOT a lawyer. - This message does NOT contain legal advice. - If you need legal advice, you need to talk to a lawyer. - If actions or decisions based on information in this message have legal consequences, those consequences are YOUR responsibility. - The IETF and yours truly disclaim all responsibility On the subject of Intellectual Property Rights, the attention of all IETF participants is directed to Section 10 of RFC 2026. -- Patents While the IETF disclaims responsibility for performing patent searches (see Section 10 of RFC 2026), the following patents have been identified to the IPS WG as being of concern with respect to SRP: (1) An SRP patent application filed by Stanford University [The SRP patent] (2) US 6226383 held by Phoenix [The SPEKE patent) (3) US 5241599 and US 5440635, held by Lucent [The EKE patents] -- Enquiries and Responses Enquiries have been made of the above patent holders, who have responded as follows: (1) Stanford has a license to their pending SRP patent available on the web at http://otl.stanford.edu/pdf/97006.pdf. There is no cost to obtain the license. No payments are due to Stanford under the license and the license does not contain any reciprocal grant of rights back to Stanford. (2) Phoenix has written to the IETF to say that the SPEKE patent may apply to SRP and has committed to make licenses available on reasonable and non-discriminatory terms. The Phoenix letter containing these statements will be sent to the list shortly and will also appear in the Intellectual Property Rights Notices area of the IETF web site in the near future. (3) After initially promising to do so, Lucent has decided not to make any statement about applicability of the EKE patents to SRP. Lucent has orally pledged to license the EKE patents in accordance with normal Lucent licensing practices, but these practices do not involve "reasonable and non-discriminatory" terms. These responses have been summarized in this message for brevity and clarity. For more details on (1), see the license at the URL above. For (2), see the forthcoming message and/or the IETF web site. For (3), see the text on this topic contained in the message at: http://www.pdl.cmu.edu/mailinglists/ips/mail/msg08716.html . -- IETF Standards Process The IETF standards process places some emphasis on commitments to reasonable and non-discriminatory licensing terms (see Section 10 of RFC 2026). Commitments to license on openly specified, reasonable and non-discriminatory terms are neither strictly necessary nor sufficient for the IESG to approve use of technology that is covered by patents, but the absence of such commitments makes IESG approval both less likely to occur and more difficult to obtain. In all cases, it is up to the WG to determine the best technical solutions to the problems it is solving, and to make the case to the IESG that the nature of the problem and available technology justifies the use of technology covered by patents. The IESG will analyze each individual case on its own merits. This position was reaffirmed by the IESG during the IESG plenary last Thursday evening. -- iSCSI The IPS WG considered this situation at its meeting last week and determined that rough consensus no longer exists for a "MUST implement" requirement for SRP in iSCSI. As things currently stand, that requirement will be weakened to "MAY" and the WG is obligated to designate some other inband authentication protocol as "MUST implement" for interoperability. Based on my discussions with some of the Transport and Security Area Directors, an approach based on using CHAP instead of SRP appears to be acceptable, but the WG should consider whether to adopt a version of CHAP enhanced by adding a Diffie-Hellman key exchange that would make the protocol resist passive attacks (e.g., packet sniffer captures CHAP traffic, adversary tries the dictionary of passwords off-line). The WG is *not* being instructed to adopt this approach; the request is simply to consider it. In no particular order of priority and/or importance, the following activities are underway to deal with the SRP situation: - The iSCSI security design team has been asked to take another look at authentication mechanisms. - Work is underway with cryptographers to consider how to add a DH exchange and/or mutual authentication to CHAP (the latter because SRP is capable of mutual authentication). - A requirements discussion for the above two bullets will take place on this list in the near future. The reason for delaying this discussion is to gather information on the consequences of requirements decisions, rather than hold a discussion in the abstract. - Lucent continues to be approached with requests to be more cooperative. Lucent's actions (or lack thereof) are the primary cause of this delay to iSCSI. iSCSI progress has been delayed by this situation. We were originally hoping to start a WG Last Call on the next (-12) version of iSCSI within the next week or so. That is not possible with this technical issue open - a Mock WG Last Call will be conducted on the next version of the iSCSI draft with the goal of reaching closure on most of its text, but the actual WG Last Call will have to await resolution of this issue. I am hopeful that this resolution can be achieved in the next month or two. Thanks, --David (IP Storage WG co-chair) --------------------------------------------------- David L. Black, Senior Technologist EMC Corporation, 42 South St., Hopkinton, MA 01748 +1 (508) 249-6449 *NEW* FAX: +1 (508) 497-8500 black_david@emc.com Cell: +1 (978) 394-7754 ---------------------------------------------------
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