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    RE: iSCSI: Some proposed vendor-specific (X-) keys



    Bill, 
    Well summarized.
    I prefer 4 also, but if it is too late for adding regular keys, then 3 will
    do.
    Regards,
    -Dennis
    
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Bill Studenmund [mailto:wrstuden@wasabisystems.com]
    >Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:01 PM
    [snip]
    >** Summary **
    >
    >Let me see if I can wrap this thread up a little so that we 
    >can get closer
    >to closure.
    >
    >There is a suggestion that we add common-use keys to indicate vendor,
    >model, and revision. The initial suggestion was for X-foo keys. This
    >format violates our standard for how X- keys work, so an alternate of
    >X-someone.short.foo was put forth. Dennis suggests above just 
    >making them
    >standard (I'm assuming Declarative) keys.
    >
    >Some of us (including myself) see diagnostic value in having 
    >these keys in
    >common use. One tcpdump of a session includes info about what 
    >was talking
    >to what.
    >
    >Some people are concerned that adding these keys will permit or tacitly
    >encourage us to slide into a mode where we paper over interop problems
    >rather than fix them. I think implicit in this point of view is that we
    >don't have major interop problems now.
    >
    >Others (including myself) believe that the WG and the iSCSI 
    >vendors will
    >do the right thing and not lazily slide into that mess.
    >
    >
    >So we have a proposal with 4 options and two motivations:
    >
    >Proposal for keys:
    >
    >1) Do nothing; don't encourage common-use keys
    >2) Add X-vendor, X-product, and X-revision to the common 
    >venacular. They
    >	would of course be "vendor specific," just a number of vendors
    >	would use them.
    >3) Some short-named vendor come forward and add names in its space that
    >	everyone use. Like say X-edu.unh.vendor, X-edu.unh.product...
    >4) Make them standard keys, like Vendor, Product, Revision. 
    >I'd vote they
    >	are delcarative and per-direction. And if you talk to something
    >	that doesn't understand them, you'll be talking to vendor
    >	"NotUnderstood". :-)
    >
    >Motivations
    >
    >A) makes it easy to identify vendor/product/rev. All you have to do is
    >capture a session (tcpdump/ethereal), and you have it. Info is in one
    >place.
    >
    >B) Identify system on other side of connection/session to turn on/off
    >quirk support.
    >
    >
    >My thoughts:
    >
    >I like either option 3) or 4). I'd prefer 4, but I realize 
    >this is late in
    >the game for the standard, so 3) might be best for now.
    >
    >I think Motivation A is a damn good one, and reason enough to add these
    >key. For Motivation B, as above, I don't think they will get us into
    >messes we aren't already in, so they are fine.
    >
    >Take care,
    >
    >Bill
    >
    


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