RE: Are there any coming iSCSI HBAs? Preferably at 100Mb speed?

[Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>]

Nope, the drive makers just switched to SATA PHYs and there is no way in
hell you will get them to retool.  Nor will the rest of the storage
players let them.  Again this is a customer game.

Cheers,


On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Eddy Quicksall wrote:

> yes
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andre Hedrick [mailto:andre@linux-ide.org] 
> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 1:17 PM
> To: Eddy Quicksall
> Cc: Russell Lewis; ips@ece.cmu.edu
> Subject: RE: Are there any coming iSCSI HBAs? Preferably at 100Mb speed?
> 
> 
> Eddy,
> 
> Are you suggesting drives with RJ45 connections as their interface?
> 
> 
> On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Eddy Quicksall wrote:
> 
> > How about an iSCSI disk though? Are any of those available or on the
> drawing
> > board?
> > 
> > Eddy
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Russell Lewis [mailto:russelll@us.ibm.com] 
> > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 5:50 PM
> > To: ips@ece.cmu.edu
> > Subject: RE: Are there any coming iSCSI HBAs? Preferably at 100Mb speed?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > An HBA of the sort I'm envisioning wouldn't need iSCSI Boot compliance.  I
> > was thinking more along the lines of a card where you preconfigure the IP
> > address and iSCSI parameters and burn it onto flash memory.
> > 
> > I know that $50-$100 is the commodity price range...that's exactly what
> I'm
> > looking for.  I know that it's too early to really expect that, but
> > somebody like NetGear could make a lot of money...
> > 
> > I just wonder if somebody could take fairly standard 10/100 Ethernet
> > hardware, slap on a little embedded processor, some memory, and some
> > EEPROM, and then run an open source initiator.  For development
> simplicity,
> > maybe just run embedded Linux on the little processor.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > Hmmm....I am reviewing iSCSI HBAs that look like SCSI adapters to the
> > system
> > right now.  They are 10/100/1000, and cost in excess of $500.00.  I
> > seriously doubt there will be a card like you describe for economic
> > reasons.
> > 
> > The $50-$100 price range is a commodity price range.  The development
> costs
> > are going to be prohibitive for an iSCSI HBA at that low speed, especially
> > when you can simply add a second NIC on a different subnet for iSCSI
> > traffic
> > for about that price.  That's not even addressing the issue of a 100Mb
> > card.
> > Most people will not put up with 10MB/sec max disk transfer rates.
> > 
> > Beyond that, I do not believe that the iSCSI boot specification is
> > completed
> > as of yet.  As far as I know you cannot boot from an iSCSI device at this
> > time.  If that's not right, someone please correct me.
> > 
> > Honestly, you would be better off using a PXE network boot.
> > 
> > Steven
> > 
> > Steven J. Schuchart Jr.
> > Associate Technology Editor
> > Servers and Storage Technology
> > Network Computing Magazine
> > Email:  sschuchart@nwc.com
> > "Information is the currency of democracy." - Thomas Jefferson
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ips@ece.cmu.edu [mailto:owner-ips@ece.cmu.edu]On Behalf Of
> > Russell Lewis
> > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 11:25 AM
> > To: ips@ece.cmu.edu
> > Subject: Are there any coming iSCSI HBAs? Preferably at 100Mb speed?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Does anybody know of any current or coming iSCSI HBAs which show up (to
> the
> > BIOS) as ordinary SCSI adapters?  I'd like to drop such an HBA into a
> > legacy computer and run a totally diskless workstation at home.
> > 
> > However, since it will be a home computer, I'm willing to operate at 100Mb
> > speed - I'm willing to eat the performance hit.  It seems to me that
> > somebody could make an iSCSI HBA with a 100Mb interface and make it
> > affordable for the home user (say, $50-$100).  Anybody know of such plans?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Andre Hedrick
> LAD Storage Consulting Group
> 

Andre Hedrick
LAD Storage Consulting Group