RE: IPS: FCIP & this list

[Black_David@emc.com]

Bob,

You left out the piece of Ralph's email which said
that converting the intermediate PDFs to text was not
feasible, hence only a PDF version will be available:

> The interim FCIP drafts and issues lists are maintained in PDF
> format, amounting to between .2M and .5M of new material per 
> week. Since this is Rome, they cannot be posted to this reflector.
> It is totally impractical to translate the PDFs to text, sorry.

Submitting paired text and PDF documents to the I-D servers
is fine, but keep in mind that the text version must be
self-contained by the time it is last called in the WG (i.e.,
only figures that are not crucial to understanding the
document can be omitted from the text version).

> I would like to push the IETF to step up to their stated
> flexibility in this area, if they have not already done so.

If you want those intermediate PDF versions on the I-D servers,
you need to push Ralph to generate their text counterparts.
The IETF secretariat stands ready to do what was promised.

Thanks,
--David
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Snively [mailto:rsnively@Brocade.COM]
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:36 PM
> To: Black_David@emc.com; ENDL_TX@computer.org; ips@ece.cmu.edu
> Subject: RE: IPS: FCIP & this list
> 
> 
> 
> Dave,
> 
> At the open-mic session at the last IETF meeting, I specifically 
> raised the issue of pdf as a documentation capability.  If I
> interpreted the reply correctly, the primary document must
> be text only.  However, versions of the documents in pdf format
> were explicitly allowed in order to bring graphics and
> better text formatting to the task of making the document
> clearer.
> 
> >From that, I would have expected that, as long as you provided
> paired txt and pdf documents, that they should both be
> available on the IETF web-sites and registered through the
> I-D servers.  In the case of personal drafts, it would be
> even possible that only the pdf existed, since they would be
> notes and supplemental texts to the txt formal drafts.
> 
> I would like to push the IETF to step up to their stated
> flexibility in this area, if they have not already done so.
> 
> Bob
> 
> > That's a judgment call.  Actually sending the PDFs to the list
> > or the I-D servers is a no-no, but it would be ok to put them
> > on a web site and post URLs to the list, as long as new text
> > versions of the draft do go to the I-D servers at reasonable
> > intervals.  It would also be ok to keep the interim PDF versions
> > private among the authors until the next major revision of
> > the draft is ready for the I-D servers.  There's
> > no requirement to make all working notes visible.
>