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[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] RE: iSCSI: NOP-InEddy, et.al. Initiators can not originate a ping with data. But it can echo a ping with data. That is, it can reflect back to the initiator, via a NOP-In, the data that was sent to it within a NOP-Out from the initiator. However, the target may not originate a ping via a NOP-In and include Data. This was done, if I remember the history correctly, because initiators are never prepared to accept unsolicited data of any kind. They always solicit data if they are to receive it. Hence, an unsolicited NOP-In with data, seemed to some to be problematical, and that capability was removed. . . . John L. Hufferd Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM) IBM/SSG San Jose Ca Main Office (408) 256-0403, Tie: 276-0403, eFax: (408) 904-4688 Home Office (408) 997-6136, Cell: (408) 499-9702 Internet address: hufferd@us.ibm.com Eddy Quicksall <eddyq@ivivity.com> on 05/13/2002 05:21:11 AM To: Julian Satran/Haifa/IBM@IBMIL cc: ips <ips@ece.cmu.edu>, John Hufferd/San Jose/IBM@IBMUS Subject: RE: iSCSI: NOP-In Maybe I misunderstood John's statement. John, aren't you saying that the target is not allowed to send ping data at all (i.e., that is MUST always use 0xFFFFFFFF in the TTT)? My implied (though perhaps not so well written) point was that a ping INITIATED by the target Eddy -----Original Message----- From: Julian Satran [mailto:Julian_Satran@il.ibm.com] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:56 AM To: Eddy Quicksall Cc: ips; John Hufferd; owner-ips Subject: RE: iSCSI: NOP-In The implied use for data is to echo it. Julo Eddy Quicksall <eddyq@ivivity.com To: John Hufferd/San > Jose/IBM@IBMUS, Julian Satran/Haifa/IBM@IBMIL 05/13/2002 03:28 cc: ips AM <ips@ece.cmu.edu>, owner-ips Please respond to <owner-ips@ece.cmu.edu>, "\"\"Robert D. Eddy Quicksall Russell\" <rdr\"" Subject: RE: iSCSI: NOP-In BTW, What is the reason for a Target Ping not to carry any data? Eddy -----Original Message----- From: John Hufferd [mailto:hufferd@us.ibm.com] Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 3:10 PM To: Julian Satran Cc: ips; owner-ips; ""Robert D. Russell" <rdr" Subject: Re: iSCSI: NOP-In Julian, you are of course correct. My implied (though perhaps not so well written) point was that a ping INITIATED by the target, is also possible, but can not have data. And that the removal of the word "ping" would perhaps prevent that concept from being obvious. . . . John L. Hufferd Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM) IBM/SSG San Jose Ca Main Office (408) 256-0403, Tie: 276-0403, eFax: (408) 904-4688 Home Office (408) 997-6136, Cell: (408) 499-9702 Internet address: hufferd@us.ibm.com Julian Satran@IBMIL 05/12/2002 04:47 AM To: John Hufferd/San Jose/IBM@IBMUS@IBMDE cc: ips@ece.cmu.edu, owner-ips@ece.cmu.edu, "Robert D. Russell" <rdr@io.iol.unh.edu> From: Julian Satran/Haifa/IBM@IBMIL Subject: Re: iSCSI: NOP-In (Document link: John Hufferd) John. Ping from target is prohibited from having data only if TTT is 0xfffffffff i.e., when no reply request is requested. Julo John Hufferd@IBMUS To: "Robert D. Russell" <rdr@io.iol.unh.edu> cc: Julian Satran/Haifa/IBM@IBMIL, ips@ece.cmu.edu, 05/10/2002 12:53 <owner-ips@ece.cmu.edu> AM From: John Hufferd/San Jose/IBM@IBMUS Subject: Re: iSCSI: NOP-In(Document link: Julian Satran - Mail) You may be correct, but I think we need to use the Ping word, so that it becomes obvious, as it does now, that Ping from Initiator can have data but ping from Target can not. . . . John L. Hufferd Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM) IBM/SSG San Jose Ca Main Office (408) 256-0403, Tie: 276-0403, eFax: (408) 904-4688 Home Office (408) 997-6136, Cell: (408) 499-9702 Internet address: hufferd@us.ibm.com
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